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		<title>Arguing with the Best, or Why You Should Lock RIGHT NOW</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 06:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan Green of Mortgage Reports is about as good as there is in the business.  He&#8217;s been at this a long time, he blogs and he tweets (@mortgagereports) and following him is a worthwhile enterprise. And today, as insane as this is, I&#8217;m going to pick a fight with him.  Okay, not really.  But he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://themortgagereports.com/">Dan Green of Mortgage Reports</a> is about as good as there is in the business.  He&#8217;s been at this a long  time, he blogs and he tweets (@mortgagereports) and following him is a  worthwhile enterprise.</p>
<p>And today, as insane as this is, I&#8217;m going to pick a fight with him.  Okay, not really.  But he <a href="http://themortgagereports.com/3473/mortgage-rates-elevator-stair-theory">did post today on a mortgage &#8220;myth&#8221;</a> that he takes apart point-by-point.  Specifically, the &#8220;myth&#8221; that  mortgage rates take the stairs down and the elevator up, i.e. that rates  rise much faster than they fall.  He argues that this is false.  And I  think his argument is all wet.</p>
<p>To prove his point, he calls out bond rates from the last 12 months,  and shows &#8211; convincingly and correctly &#8211; that bond rates have been much  more likely to fall than to rise, and more likely to fall dramatically  than to rise dramatically. Here are the data:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>So, if we compare these groupings to the last year&#8217;s  actual, daily  price changes, and we see an interesting pattern emerge  for rate  shoppers.</em></p>
<ol>
<li><em>Days of no change in rates : 65 days trending worse, 63 days trending better</em></li>
<li><em>Days of 0.125% change : 36 days of higher rates, <strong>50 days of lower rates</strong></em></li>
<li><em>Days of 0.250% change : 21 days of higher rates, <strong>50 days of lower rates</strong></em></li>
<li><em>Days of 0.375% change : <strong>6 days of higher rates</strong>, 3 days of lower rates</em></li>
</ol>
<p><em>In   other words, mortgage rates [sic] were unchanged for nearly half of  the last  12 months. For the other half, they overwhelmingly moved  toward  &#8220;improvement&#8221;.</em></p>
<p><em>Now, we should throw out 0.125% changes  because  they&#8217;re somewhat &#8220;ordinary&#8221;; it&#8217;s just one tick higher or lower  in  rates. Instead, let&#8217;s focus on big shifts in pricing which, in  turn,  lead to big shifts in </em><em>rates.  That&#8217;s where we see the myth debunked, specifically.</em></p>
<p><em>On   days with big rate changes &#8212; 1/4 percent or more &#8212; decreases in  rates  outnumber increases by a 2:1 margin. That&#8217;s a huge difference.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>His data is unassailable.  So his argument appears sound.</p>
<p>Except for one little bait-and-switch that he probably didn&#8217;t notice himself (see the [sic]).  These data are for <em>bond rates</em>.   But Dan says &#8220;mortgage rates&#8221; in his analysis.  If they were the same  thing, then the data would support his premise exactly.  But they  aren&#8217;t.  Everyone knows they aren&#8217;t.  There is not and never has been  anything like a one-to-one correlation between bond rates and mortgage  rates.</p>
<p>Worse than that, I think Dan&#8217;s entire premise is flawed.  Here&#8217;s the premise of his analysis:</p>
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<ol>
<li><em>Changes of less than 25 basis points often lead to no change in mortgage rates</em></li>
<li><em>Changes of 25-37.5 basis points often lead to a 0.125% change in mortgage rates</em></li>
<li><em>Changes of 37.5-75 basis points often lead to a 0.250% change in mortgage rates</em></li>
<li><em>Changes of 75+ basis points often lead to a 0.375% change in mortgage rates</em></li>
</ol>
</blockquote>
<p>But this isn&#8217;t true, or at least, it&#8217;s only true in one direction &#8211;  higher.  There&#8217;s a reason that it&#8217;s proverbial among mortgage people  that rates are sticky down, that they don&#8217;t drop nearly as fast as they  rise. That is because there is a disconnect between bond movement and  mortgage rate movement. When bonds move higher, rates should fall, and  they do, but not very fast.  And when bonds move lower, rates should  rise, and they do, but far out of proportion to the movement in bonds.</p>
<p>Dan has his data, and he points out that bonds have moved higher,  taking rates down, far more often than they have moved lower, taking  rates up, over the last year.  I don&#8217;t mean to be snide here, Dan, but <em>duh</em>.   Anyone can see that.  The bond market has been very robust this past  year. Your data show exactly what we ought to see in a hot bond market.</p>
<p>But <em>my </em>data show how banks actually <em>react </em>to bond  market movement, and what we see backs up the conventional wisdom and  contradicts Dan&#8217;s argument.  To demonstrate this, I have the intraday  reprices from three different mortgage lenders for the past six months.   And the story THOSE data tell is very different than the one the bond  market tells.</p>
<p>To wit:</p>
<p>Intraday reprices for the better: All lenders &#8211; 29 (14, 11, and 4)</p>
<p>Intraday reprices for the worse: All lenders &#8211; 54 (20, 15, and 19)</p>
<p>There were, on top of this, five <em>second </em>reprices  to the worse, making a total of 59, or more than two negative reprices  for every one positive reprice.  Even if you throw out the most  conservative lender, the total is still 39 to 25 in favor of  reprices to the worse.  And yet, over this period, the FNMA 4.0 bond <em>rose dramatically, </em>from  a low of 98.74 to a high of 104 at one point in mid-October (currently  trading at 101.68).  How can this be, unless lender reaction really is  skewed to raise rates instead of dropping them?  Dan&#8217;s data show that  there are twice as many days of robust positive movement than negative  movement in the bond market over the past year.  Taking that into  account, what we see here is that lenders are <em>four times as likely</em> to raise rates than to drop them, when the market moves.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually even worse than that.  Lenders improved prices, in  the 29 improvements, an average of .188 bps.  But the average  deterioration was .262.  Not only are there significantly more  deteriorations than improvements, when lenders move pricing, the moves  to raise rates are far larger than the moves to lower them.  There were  five days in the last six months that saw two negative reprices in the  same trading day, but no days when there were multiple price  improvements, this in a market where <em>the bond rose over 600 bps in four months</em>.</p>
<p>Bottom line, Dan, you have convincingly demonstrated that when  bond demand is high, bonds rise.  I&#8217;m not sure this needed  demonstrating, but there certainly isn&#8217;t any doubt about it after your  analysis.  But you either forgot to establish the correlation between  bond rates and mortgage rates, and how the movements correspond, or else  the data support no such correlation.  My data are far less scientific  than yours, but mine show very stiff circumstantial evidence that  lenders behave exactly as the conventional wisdom says they do: they  price higher faster, and more aggressively, and they drop rates  reluctantly and as slowly as they can get away with.</p>
<p>All of which is unfortunate for rate shoppers.  Dan does conclude his post with some very sage  advice: if you&#8217;re more upset with a 1/8 rise in rate than you&#8217;d be happy  with a 1/8 drop &#8211; and most people are &#8211; you should be locking as fast  as you can.  I&#8217;ll even extend that.  If you can live with the rate you  have right now, take it, because there&#8217;s a 4x greater chance that you&#8217;ll  get something worse than something better if you wait.</p>
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		<title>That was some week.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know how you get to the start of a week, and  you get everything planned out, get your to-do lists together, and you hit the week running with a ton of energy and purpose? That was this week. And you know how some weeks the things you mean to do and the things you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know how you get to the start of a week, and  you get everything planned out, get your to-do lists together, and you hit the week running with a ton of energy and purpose?</p>
<p>That was this week.</p>
<p>And you know how some weeks the things you mean to do and the things you have to do collide so violently that even though you are working constantly, knocking things off the to-do list with abandon, and seeing real (even some times miraculous) progress, you get to the end of the week and you realize that you accomplished almost none of the things you meant to?</p>
<p>That was this week, too.</p>
<p>Mortgages being what they are, the opportunities to do really significant good for people don&#8217;t come along every day.  When they do, you often have extremely short windows to get things moving.  That&#8217;s what happened this week, as rates dived a bit and some potential streamline refinances came into play that honestly I never thought would happen.  But you have to strike while the iron is hot, even if that puts a lot of other things &#8211; worthwhile things, even necessary things &#8211; on the back burner.  That&#8217;s what I tried to do this week, and maybe I even succeeded.  We will finish the week with more business in process than we&#8217;ve had in a year, and the immediate prospect of cutting $1450/mo in interest out of the payments of our clients, a not-insubstantial sum.</p>
<p>So, a good week.  I sent a <a href="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/2010/08/18/my-son-is-gone/">son to college</a>, set up a company, closed a purchase for a really exceptional young lady, learned to love the <a href="http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tenth_Doctor">Tenth Doctor</a> (but not as much as the <a href="http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Ninth_Doctor">Ninth</a>), read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594488843/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1282347338&amp;sr=8-1"><em>Drive</em>, by Daniel Pink</a> (two thumbs waaaaay up), blogged a couple of times and exchanged Twitter messages with <a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/">Chris Brogan</a>.  I discovered that the most durable brand in all of business is Notre Dame football.  I debated the sociology of rites of passage with the wonderful and amazing Pastor Chuck Lovelady.  I drank homemade grape juice and took a beautiful girl to the football game.  Wrote more of my book and <a href="http://www.zillow.com/blog/mortgage/2010/08/18/im-from-the-government-and-im-here-to-help/">an article</a> on <a href="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com">lending in Utah</a>.  There was some stuff I didn&#8217;t do.  But I promise not to mention any of it, if you won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Go have a great weekend.  You deserve it.  Really, you do.</p>
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		<title>The Crystal Ball &#8211; 29 July 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to the first edition of the Crystal Ball, where I tell you definitively what will be happening in the world over the coming days.  You have been warned. The Los Angeles Dodgers will not be able to catch San Diego, and will fail to make the playoffs.  Again. My class on the History of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/crystal-ball.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1170" title="crystal-ball" src="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/crystal-ball-219x300.jpg" alt="" width="219" height="300" /></a>Welcome to the first edition of the Crystal Ball, where I tell you definitively what will be happening in the world over the coming days.  You have been warned.</p>
<p>The Los Angeles Dodgers will not be able to catch San Diego, and will fail to make the playoffs.  Again.</p>
<p>My class on the <a href="http://leadershipeducationacademy.com/?page_id=472">History of Money</a> will attract more students than my <a href="http://leadershipeducationacademy.com/?page_id=359">Thomas Jefferson Youth Certification</a> class this fall.  The <a href="http://ledershipeducationacademy.com">Leadership Education Academy</a> will be a resounding success, mostly because Janette Wagner, the organizer, is one of those hyper-capable people you hope to have as your friend.</p>
<p>The new Wall Street Reform Act will increase the fees you pay for credit cards, restrict credit for small businesses, and raise mortgage interest rates.  This will happen gradually over the next several months to two years, so that it will be possible to blame the banks for the increases.</p>
<p>The Obama Administration will blame the banks for the increases.</p>
<p>Mortgage brokerage firms will close in record numbers in 2011, and the number of active loan officers in the US will decline by another 50% from current numbers.  In case you were unaware of this, the new financial regulations make it almost impossible for brokers to survive, due to the nature of the restrictions on loan officer compensation.  In one example, the requirement that a loan officer be compensated only from one source &#8211; either the borrower or the lender, but not both &#8211; means that either your mortgage will carry a lower interest rate and huge closing costs, or a huge rate and low closing costs, but nothing in between.  And oh, that compensation cannot be based on the interest rate, although that&#8217;s how the BANK is compensated.</p>
<p>Mortgage lending will continue to increase in difficulty.  Credit will be further restricted, especially to marginal borrowers.  Loan costs will rise further.  Incidences of mortgage fraud will skyrocket.  The correlation will equal causation, but no one in any major publication or network will understand that.  It goes without saying that no one in the government will.</p>
<p>The Republican Party will take control of the House of Representatives in November.  The Senate will remain in Democrat hands.  Harry Reid will survive.</p>
<p><a href="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/foursquare_logo-300x300.png"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1171" style="margin: 5px 10px;" title="foursquare_logo-300x300" src="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/foursquare_logo-300x300.png" alt="" width="80" height="80" /></a>I will become <a href="http://foursquare.com">Foursquare </a>Mayor of Emmett&#8217;s and Ethel&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Mortgage interest rates will remain below 5% until November.  The GOP victory will cause them to rise, because a GOP win will be viewed as good for business &#8211; the stock market &#8211; and bad for government &#8211; the bond market.  Money will move from bonds into stocks and rates will rise.  The rise will be seen as a bad thing by most people, and will make possible charges that the Republicans have screwed up the only good part of the economy before they even take office.</p>
<p>The Obama Administration will charge the Republicans with screwing up the economy before they&#8217;ve even taken office.</p>
<p>My book, <em>The Six Channels of Marketing</em>, will be completed, and over 100 people will have enrolled in the PerfectHome program, by Hallowe&#8217;en.</p>
<p>The Utah Jazz will fail to sign another free agent.  Mehmet Okur will report to camp but be physically unable to perform until midseason.  The lack of a long-range shooter will restrict the effectiveness of the Jazz low-post players.  By December the Jazz will nonetheless be second behind Oklahoma City in the Midwest Division.</p>
<p>My sister Diana&#8217;s children will both sleep through the night &#8211; the same night &#8211; by Labor Day.</p>
<p>The final book of the <a href="http://www.hungergamestrilogy.com/fansite/">Hunger Games Trilogy</a>, <em>Mockingjay</em>, will deservedly become a New York Times <a href="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mockingjay.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1172" style="margin: 5px 10px;" title="mockingjay" src="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mockingjay-197x300.jpg" alt="" width="86" height="131" /></a>bestseller, despite (because of?) its highly anarchic political bent.  Someone will be smart enough to see a gigantic business opportunity in the production of mockingjay pins.  An entire generation of young adults will be un-indoctrinated, and dedicate their lives to the preservation of individual liberty.  And the world will be saved.  So you see, there&#8217;s nothing to worry about.</p>
<p>Your predictions are welcome in the comments, and you may also submit additional topics for me to answer with a gaze into the Crystal Ball.  Which I predict the next edition of in 30 days.</p>
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		<title>A Brand-New RateWatch</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I made RateWatch a videocast.  Approximate text is below.  But I beg you &#8211; send me an email (chris@lehilender.com) or make a comment and let me know what you think.  Good idea?  Good idea but bad execution?  You don&#8217;t have to be gentle. Let&#8217;s get to it. MARKET: the market is down a bit [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I made RateWatch a videocast.  Approximate text is below.  But I beg you &#8211; send me an email (chris@lehilender.com) or make a comment and let me know what you think.  Good idea?  Good idea but bad execution?  You don&#8217;t have to be gentle.</p>
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<p>Let&#8217;s get to it.</p>
<p>MARKET: the market is down a bit today, off about 25 basis points.  For those just joining us &#8211; hey there, Tyler, Corrine, and Taylor &#8211; what that means is that the bond we track, the FNMA 4.5% 30-year bond &#8211; is being sold off and its price is declining.  It also means that the yield on that bond is rising.  Since lenders hedge their lending by buying those bonds, when the yields on them rise, mortgage rates rise with them.  So today mortgage rates are increasing.  Not very much, but a little.  More than we&#8217;ve seen in a month.</p>
<p>ANALYSIS: Markets rise and markets fall.  The big news over the past few weeks has been the increasing probability that we&#8217;ll see a market slump over the last half of the year and into next year.  There is also a real fear that next year could be truly ugly.  With the Bush tax cuts sunsetting on January 1, businesses will be moving their cashflow into the latter half of this year to avoid the explosive tax increase.  Dividend taxes nearly triple, which will be terrible for pension funds, and every single tax bracket will see tax increases.</p>
<p>Anyone that thinks that won&#8217;t have a huge negative impact on economic growth is not a serious person.  There is a chance &#8211; really, a pretty good one &#8211; that Congress will do something about an extension for part of the cuts, especially those that will have the smallest economic, but largest political, impact.  As of this moment, however, it doesn&#8217;t seem a good time to invest in stocks.  Bonds, as a result, have been flourishing, driving interest rates to 4.5% and even lower on some programs.</p>
<p>ACTION: We may have hit the bottom of this trench in mortgage rates.  Those of you that have been thinking now might be a good time to buy, now might be a good time to buy.  For refinances, I&#8217;m willing to go out on a limb and say it&#8217;s now or never.</p>
<p>Until next time, we&#8217;ll keep up the RateWatch.</p>
<p>Cj</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Markets: Yesterday was a good day up, and today is down only slightly, so it appears we might hold our gains.  We gained 65 bps yesterday and have lost back 16 so far today, which on net is pretty good.  For the uninitiated, there is a strong correlation between mortgage-backed securities (mbs) and mortgage interest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ratewatch-copy.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-844" style="margin: 10px;" title="ratewatch-copy" src="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ratewatch-copy-300x268.jpg" alt="" width="134" height="119" /></a><strong>Markets</strong>: Yesterday was a good day up, and today is down only slightly, so it appears we might hold our gains.  We gained 65 bps yesterday and have lost back 16 so far today, which on net is pretty good.  For the uninitiated, there is a strong correlation between mortgage-backed securities (mbs) and mortgage interest rates.  When mbs rise, rates fall, but the correlation is not 1-to-1.  A 50bp move in mbs corresponds to at least a .25% improvement in rate price, which means about .125% better rate (<a href="http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/2009/04/27/rate-points-and-fees-a-mortgage-buyers-guide/">see detailed explanation here</a>).  Usually.  Not always.  Not for every program.  Not for every lender.  Professional mortgage guys get paid for their services, and there&#8217;s a good reason for that.</p>
<p><strong>Analysis</strong>: Markets liked Ben Bernanke&#8217;s testimony yesterday.  He&#8217;s forecasting more unemployment, and the economy hitting a bottom here and starting to climb late this year or early next.  But he&#8217;s also telling us that he sees a slow climb, with no huge bounce, especially in real estate.  This is what is called an &#8220;L&#8221; recession, where things fall and then plateau at the new, lower level.  I think that&#8217;s a good analysis.  I expect the same, for a good while, until US households shed more debt and build more cash.  Right now it is the cash dearth that is starving the economy.  That dearth has been created by huge appetites for debt.  Eventually, all debt payments come a&#8217;cropper, and that&#8217;s what is happening now.  It will pass, if we&#8217;re smart, and if the government doesn&#8217;t insist on a recovery according to some electoral timetable.</p>
<p>Which is why I&#8217;d get my own house in order as fast as possible.  We&#8217;re not all that smart, and the government always acts according to electoral timetables.  The basics still work, though, people.  Save some, pay off your debt, find someone to help and help them.  That&#8217;s the way through.</p>
<p>Cj</p>
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		<title>RateWatch &#8211; Birthday Week</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Markets: Mortgage-backed securities are down 9bps, which is nothing.  We were down 44 at one point today, but we&#8217;ve crawled back on the shocking news that most people think the economy is crap.  Rates are still drifting down slowly.  We&#8217;re in the low 5% range on most everything as long as you have good credit. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Markets</strong>: Mortgage-backed securities are down 9bps, which is nothing.  We were down 44 at one point today, but we&#8217;ve crawled back on the shocking news that most people think the economy is crap.  Rates are still drifting down slowly.  We&#8217;re in the low 5% range on most everything as long as you have good credit.</p>
<p><strong>Analysis</strong>: What&#8217;s to analyze?  It&#8217;s a holiday week.  There are about 6 bond traders working, and all of them are taking off around noon.  There&#8217;s no volume to speak of, and the volatility that usually accompanies light volume is being muted because all the economic data are conflicting with themselves.  Yes, folks, &#8220;data&#8221; is a plural.  No, really.  Look it up.</p>
<p>Cj</p>
<p>P.S. Unless something truly wondrous occurs in the next couple days, you&#8217;ll next hear from me on Monday. Tomorrow is my birthday, Thursday is my son Crispin&#8217;s 13th birthday, and Saturday is some other birthday that I can&#8217;t remember.  Has to do with barbecues, I think. <img src='http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   But as always, if you have questions, I&#8217;ll be here.</p>
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		<title>RateWatch ALERT &#8211; Thanks for nothing, CreditSuisse!</title>
		<link>http://thechrisjonesgroup.com/chrisjonesmortgage/2009/05/21/ratewatch-alert-thanks-for-nothing-creditsuisse/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Market:  We got whacked today by a report out of CreditSuisse that speculates that the Fed will slow down its buying of mortgage-backed securities in order to conserve its cash, so that it can keep rates lower longer.  This is speculation.  I think they&#8217;re wrong.  This doesn&#8217;t matter at all, because the markets spooked and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><strong>Market</strong>:  We got whacked today by a <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2154860420090521">report out of CreditSuisse</a> that speculates that the Fed will slow down its buying of mortgage-backed securities in order to conserve its cash, so that it can keep rates lower longer.  This is speculation.  I think they&#8217;re wrong.  This doesn&#8217;t matter at all, because the markets spooked and bonds went in the tank.  That will take rates up by as much as .25%.</div>
<p><div><strong>Analysis</strong>: CreditSuisse has a lot smarter people on board than I am, so maybe they&#8217;re right.  But here&#8217;s my question &#8211; if the government started out with a $750 billion buying plan, then felt the need to up it to $1.25 trillion (of which well less than half is spent), and did so without any difficulty, why on earth would it have any trouble doing it again if it needed to?  Is the $1.25 trillion some sort of hard cap?  Who made that the limit?  Is there any evidence that President Obama would hesitate to write more checks if he wanted to?</div>
<p><div>For now, though, if you were waiting to tell me what rate you wanted, it might be smart to pull the trigger and call me (801-310-3407) or email me (chris@lehilender.com) or tweet me (@chrisjoneslehi).  We could be in for a fun ride here.</div>
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		<title>Why Your Rate is Not on the Evening News</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quick Market Read: Flat and slightly up for mortgage-backed securities, reversing last week&#8217;s trend.  Rates holding just under 5% for most programs.  It&#8217;s a short week for bonds because of Easter, so they&#8217;ll only trade until Thursday.  Fed buying is outmuscling the market, and there is no significant economic news this week. Today&#8217;s Nugget: CNN [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Quick Market Read: Flat and slightly up for mortgage-backed securities, reversing last week&#8217;s trend.  Rates holding just under 5% for most programs.  It&#8217;s a short week for bonds because of Easter, so they&#8217;ll only trade until Thursday.  Fed buying is outmuscling the market, and there is no significant economic news this week.</div>
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<div>Today&#8217;s Nugget: CNN and the talking heads will never be able to tell you your rate.  First, your situation is unique to you, even if you broadly fit inside the A+ box.  I have some people that get 5% and others that get 4.5%, and it&#8217;s hard to tell without the specifics which it will be.  Second, even if CNN/CNBC are quoting data from a mortgage organization that purports to give the &#8220;average rate for the week&#8221;, what they are generally quoting is the coupon rate for the mortgage, which can bear some relationship to your actual interest rate, or possibly none at all.  Depends.  Finally, when the pundits are telling you we&#8217;re going to 4%, they&#8217;re guessing just like I am.  My track record has been pretty decent, as those of you regulars can attest, and I&#8217;m a whale of a lot more likely to respond to your questions than Becky Quick is, even though she&#8217;s a lot better looking.</div>
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<div>Just a Thought: Easter is about renewal.  Even if you don&#8217;t subscribe to the idea that Jesus rose from the tomb, you certainly notice that your tulips are up again, even though you probably didn&#8217;t plant new ones this year.  The earth goes through cycles of renewal, and so do you.  If you get down, remember, you&#8217;re going to come back.  And if you need help, holler.  That&#8217;s what friends are for.</div>
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<div>Cj</div>
<p>P.S. Having been a Tar Heel fan all my life, I gotta say, the sky is the appropriate blue today.</p>
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		<title>RateWatch FED Madness &#8211; Fed Gets Its Freak On</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday the Fed announced a couple of things of critical import to the mortgage world.  One, it is not doing much of anything with the Fed rate for the forseeable future.  There is not going to be a rush to raise interest rates even if the economy improves dramatically, and there&#8217;s no reason to think [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday the Fed announced a couple of things of critical import to the mortgage world.  One, it is not doing much of anything with the Fed rate for the forseeable future.  There is not going to be a rush to raise interest rates even if the economy improves dramatically, and there&#8217;s no reason to think that it will, not any time soon. Two, it is expanding its purchasing program of mortgage-backed securities from $500 billion (half is spent) to $1.25 trillion.  With a &#8220;T&#8221;.  Three, it is going to start buying back long-term Treasury bonds as well, $300 million worth.
<p><div>For the technically inclined, here&#8217;s what this means: when Fed buys mortgage-backed securities, it is purchasing notes that are secured by mortgage contracts.  Those contracts are the documents you sign at the closing table.  Retail lenders &#8211; like me &#8211; originate mortgages and fund them, having usually pre-sold those loans to secondary lenders (this is called <em>warehousing</em>), which will bundle them up and sell them to FNMA/FHLMC (Fannie and Freddie).  This flow is critical to what most people think of as the mortgage process.  The mortgages back securities that allow banks to replenish their supply of cash to lend out again.  If the Fed starts buying those securities, the flow increases in the pipeline and lenders can lend more money.</div>
<p><div>With the collapse of the credit markets, the flow has been severely restricted and that has made mortgage lending sort of like being in the middle of the ocean dying of thirst.  There&#8217;s money everywhere, but we can&#8217;t lend it, because the secondary lenders have to restrict their flow to only the very choicest of loans, because those are the only ones they can securitize.  That flow will free up at some point and those outside the top 10% of borrowers will once again be able to borrow money.  In the meantime, the Fed action prevents the last trickle from freezing up as well.  The buying pressure reduces risk in the MBS markets, raising their prices and lowering their yields.  Since (in a circle, now) the yields on those MBS dictate to lenders what their risk is on mortgage lending, as those yields drop, rates drop with them.</div>
<p><div>Whew.  Still with me?</div>
<p><div>Yesterday, because of the Fed announcement, bond prices exploded to the upside and yields dropped like a stone.  That should (under ordinary circumstances) have meant a large drop in mortgage interest rates.  But it didn&#8217;t.</div>
<p><div>Rates on mortgages took only a small dip yesterday.  I say &#8220;small&#8221; because it was not nearly as big a move as would be expected from the way the bond markets moved.  Why is this?  Two reasons: one, refinance pipelines are choked, and I mean choked.  Our staff starts work at 6am and finishes (last night, for instance) at midnight.  The in-house underwriting staff at City1st is pulling 16-hour shifts and has been since roughly Christmas.  Secondary market lenders are doing the same with their staff &#8211; remember, a LOT of people got laid off last year, and most lenders went very lean to try to stay in business.  That means loans just can&#8217;t get through the pipe very quickly.  To slow the flow, lenders keep their rates artificially high.  Two, lenders know that most of their volume on these loans is coming from refinances of loans they already hold.  They&#8217;re not getting new, high-performing loans without losing older, higher-interest loans at the same time, so this boom is not necessarily good for them.  They&#8217;re being defensive about rates, and there are lots of good reasons for them to do this.</div>
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<p><div>In light of this, what do I recommend? Same as always: if you have a deal that works, that pays for itself inside of three years, TAKE IT.  Don&#8217;t try to time this stuff.  It&#8217;s impossible.  It&#8217;s also a major drain on your resources.  The best thing you can do to make sure you get the rate you want is to get set up with us under the Mortgage Under Management program with a hard rate target.  You&#8217;ll get your lock when the rate reaches your particular level without your having to be reading tea leaves.  We&#8217;re professionals.  We do this for a living.  This RateWatch and the MUM program and all the other services you get here are part of what makes us the best.  Use us, that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re here for.  Hit me back with an email, and it will seriously take 10 minutes to get you set up.</div>
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<p><div>Meantime, expect rates to be at 5% for FHA and slightly below for conventional, depending on about 100 different factors that could make your rate higher or lower.  Call or email for specifics.</div>
<div>This is going to be a fun few months, folks.  Stay with us, and keep your arms and hands inside the car at all times.</div>
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<p><div>Cj</div>
<div>Chris Jones</div>
<div>City1st Mortgage Services</div>
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		<title>RateWatch Friday Feb 6</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisjones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s the thing.  Markets have displayed a huge amount of volatility over the past several months.  Where once mortgage-backed securities (those things that actually control mortgage rates) would trade in a 35bp range on an average day in 2006, today we have 100 bp days all the time, and it&#8217;s not all that unusual.  At [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Here&#8217;s the thing.  Markets have displayed a huge amount of volatility over the past several months.  Where once mortgage-backed securities (those things that actually control mortgage rates) would trade in a 35bp range on an average day in 2006, today we have 100 bp days all the time, and it&#8217;s not all that unusual.  At least, that was true until the last three weeks.  For the last three weeks, we&#8217;ve been trading sideways in very narrow ranges, almost always slightly down.  It&#8217;s maddening, frankly.  Rates are being ground higher a bit at a time, just a hair here and a hair there, until where once we quoted 4.75%, today we&#8217;re talking about 5.375%, and that&#8217;s only for those with 740 credit.</div>
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<div>So the big question is: what&#8217;s going to happen next?  Up or down?</div>
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<div>And the answer is: who could possibly know?  There are two wild cards here.  One is Fed buying, which is still going on, but is probably being muted in its effect by Treasury selling of bonds, and the other is the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; package being argued over in Congress.  Nobody knows what provisions that will contain, and until we do, no bank is going to be interested in lending money.  Why bet your company in a game where the rules might change from one day to the next?</div>
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<div>I&#8217;ll make a prediction, because you&#8217;d be disappointed if I didn&#8217;t.  I predict that the stimulus package will pass by the end of next week, and give us a boost to the downside on rates for mortgages that will be powerful but brief, like two or three days brief.  To take advantage of it, you&#8217;ll need someone with his finger on the trigger who can lock immediately, but who also can get the loan closed before the lock blows.  Broker underwriting is averaging over 30 days right now.  Our underwriting is 48 hours.  We can &#8211; and do &#8211; close loans from application to fund in less than two weeks.  The rally we get will be followed by more slow upward grinding, until the middle of this year, when rates will spike as the Fed runs out of buying power.</div>
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<div>That&#8217;s the call.  Put on your booties &#8217;cause it&#8217;s cold out there today.  It&#8217;s cold out there every day.</div>
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